Big leak reveals Apple could switch Macs to AMD chips

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Leaks from the latest macOS 10.15.4 beta hint at Apple potentially switching to AMD chips over Intel in the future. What will that mean?
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Walker Firmin
Walker Firmin Aylar önce
Will the end of year 2020 macbook pro 16 inch come with a 4k display? 🙏 🙏 🙏
Joseph Smiley
Joseph Smiley 2 aylar önce
I'm thinking that the first MacBook with a ARM processor will be for education to compete with Chromebooks.
Ramsey Rodriguez
Ramsey Rodriguez 2 aylar önce
They dont need to switch completely, they only need to make MacOS AMD-Compatible (as Windows is); and make different hardware version (again, like Surface Pro, that has both intel and AMD versions). If its an AMD-semi-custom build, could be use for high performance.
Uthman Baksh
Uthman Baksh 3 aylar önce
I built my current gaming PC with an AMD processor and it is amazing. I can't wait until I can get a Ryzen Mac!
Peter Wan
Peter Wan 4 aylar önce
kinda feel sad for intel if apple really switch to amd. tho i am a big fan of amd.
Patricio Benavente
Patricio Benavente 4 aylar önce
CleanMyMac X is crap. It install some strange startup items (damons)
Robin Hugli
Robin Hugli 4 aylar önce
This would be actually a good decision. Just think about apple unfortunate timing of using xeons instead of threadripper in the Mac pro, just a terrible mistake
Pixel Dust
Pixel Dust 4 aylar önce
The change from Motorola to Intel was enough to make us realize that the CPU matters not.
sjun demartelaere
sjun demartelaere 4 aylar önce
An 18" MacBook Pro would be fine.
Allyson Franken
Allyson Franken 4 aylar önce
I don't see it happen anytime soon, hope it will though but doubt it.
Sacto1654
Sacto1654 4 aylar önce
While switching to AMD makes sense, you wonder if Apple is seriously looking at going with a multicore version of the A14 SoC as the starting point for future Mac models.
lasarith2
lasarith2 4 aylar önce
Based on roomers 2020 12” MacBook -Arm 14x 14” MacBook Air - AMD 14”MacBook pro - AMD/Intel 16” MacBook Pro - AMD/Intel 2021 - (14” MacBook Air - Apple processor.
Audiocronic
Audiocronic 4 aylar önce
The music in the start of the video is too loud.
Audiocronic
Audiocronic 4 aylar önce
Same with the sfx
Lazar Otasevic
Lazar Otasevic 4 aylar önce
yess!
Wilhelm Shultz
Wilhelm Shultz 4 aylar önce
They want to build cheaper machines and charge more money.
Talk ID
Talk ID 4 aylar önce
This will be smooth transition. Bcs it has similiar architecture
Rob H
Rob H 4 aylar önce
Just bought an EGPU for my 2019 Mac Pro. I’ll be in the corner crying about my purchasing decisions now.
Delain124
Delain124 4 aylar önce
Uh? They are talking about AMD CPU. So what does the EGPU have to do with the CPU?
TruthAndMoreTruth
TruthAndMoreTruth 4 aylar önce
I though Apple was going to make their own chips? Don't they use their own chip in the Mac Book?
Steve Steele
Steve Steele 4 aylar önce
I don’t see it. Apple just spent a lot of time and effort rebooting the Mac Pro and if they were planning a move to AMD, it would have made a lot of sense to start with the EPYC CPU, instead of having to then clumsily switch during a refresh cycle later on. Btw, the iMac Pro isn’t that old (comes with a (Xeon), and the Mac Mini was also semi-rebooted . The problem is that with pro apps, there’s a lot more CPU optimization going on, notably in the form of AVX-512 instruction set support which AMD doesn’t support. And yes, I have several “pro” apps and plugins that are highly optimized for AVX-512. So, that rules out the workstation class Macs. What about the MacBooks and iMacs then? Although I have no doubt that Apple has internal Macs running on AMD.CPUs right now, it’s not very Apple-like to fragment hardware, especially the CPU. Apple doesn’t want m customers coming up with questions like, “what brand CPU does this Mac come with? Will this AMD Mac support such and such feature that my Intel Mac supports?” I just think Apple would want to make sure that customers don’t care which x86 CPU is in their Mac, because as of now Apple can’t just stop using Intel. They would have to use both AMD and Intel. Not sure Apple would do that, (even if it’s been the norm in the PC world forever). However, this eSports thing is very intriguing. Apple could do very well for itself in the gaming market IF they really dedicated themselves to it. They have all the talent in house to succeed in this area. And now that gaming is becoming big business and not just a hobbyists sport, I could see Apple forming a gaming division, (like the Pro division that did the Mac Pro), to make a specialty gaming workstation, built from the ground up with gaming in mind. But unlike the audio and video industry, Apple doesn’t own the gaming industry. There would have to be a LOT of money in it for Apple to really do it right. For Apple to build an AMD Mac, much like the Mac Pro, it would have to scream “this Mac is for gamers and gaming applications and nobody else.” Gamers themselves doesn’t like to spend a lot of money. There has to be industry behind it. Then, maybe in a few years when the A series SoC has moved forward a few more generations, and Apple has made strides in the gaming community, maybe then Apple will become less Intel dependent. I guess my first question would be, which Mac gets the AMD CPU first and why? I could give reasons why no current Mac would be a good candidate and it has to do with the industries that buy the Macs they buy, and what advantages those Macs have in that industry (as far as the CPU goes). I’m sure it’s obvious.
Steve Steele
Steve Steele 4 aylar önce
ADMIRAL. BACON Apple doesn’t have a gaming PC. And if and when they do, it will have to be competitive which means it will have to be different in design than anything else they currently offer. They have the talent and resources to enter that market. That was my point.
ADMIRAL. BACON
ADMIRAL. BACON 4 aylar önce
Apple doing well in gaming with a 5k gaming pc it's going to flop so hard it's funny
feiprettyfly
feiprettyfly 4 aylar önce
Anyone think there will be a 14 in Mac this time ?
Scan End
Scan End 4 aylar önce
This was news ten years ago. Although I don’t think it will be this instruction set. I believe Apple have invented an entirely new instruction set that is ARM like but better suited to working with BSD.
Steve Frankes
Steve Frankes 4 aylar önce
Good then we can see them both crash and burn
Shahaaim
Shahaaim 4 aylar önce
As someone who owns a Hackintosh this is really exciting!
Ege Ve Tayfası HD - The Official Channel
Ege Ve Tayfası HD - The Official Channel 4 aylar önce
Woah. This is going to be epic if it will.
Jin Raigami
Jin Raigami 4 aylar önce
If the switch happens, does that mean the bootcamp would be no more? 😿
President Asyraaf Abd Aziz
President Asyraaf Abd Aziz 4 aylar önce
This sounds great! , will we see the 128-bit architecture processor in the Macs? and 120Hz refresh rate on Macs Mini-LED displays 🤷‍♂️🤯
Ricky Mau
Ricky Mau 4 aylar önce
Now if Qualcomm and AMD do a M & A ... who knows.
Aaaaea
Aaaaea 4 aylar önce
I think Brian is confused between amd and arm....
Erik Reider
Erik Reider 4 aylar önce
It already works with amd chips. I've got my ryzen 1700 working in my hackintosh without any problems except for power management. Those references are probably for the GPUs in the cpus. Both amd and Intel use are using x86 so the optimization from their part shouldn't be that hard except for the power management and converting to amds virtualization instead of haxm / vt-x
David Sharp
David Sharp 4 aylar önce
More likely Apple will be switching to ARM.
The Burner
The Burner 4 aylar önce
In the low to mid end, but you can't expect to get high end desktop performance out of ARM (at least for the next years)
John Dell
John Dell 4 aylar önce
An updated iMac with a larger screen, less bezel, and an AMD 3950x? Yes, please.
Bruno Cardoso
Bruno Cardoso 4 aylar önce
considering intel's top of the line chip is a 28 core, and amd's is a 64 core with higher performance per thread, apple would be fools not to jump over
forest force
forest force 2 aylar önce
@opendebate haha $30k server CPU
mabbook
mabbook 4 aylar önce
@opendebate The 56 core CPU you are talking about was made by Intel taking one of their two-socket server setups and putting it on a single package so it has multiple issues. One is that it uses over 400 watts of power while barely matching AMD's 280 watt CPU. Second, since it is literally two CPUs on one package it is much too big to realistically fit into a desktop computer and to cool it since it uses over 400 watts. The third is cost, The 56 core from intel has no retail pricing but it costs over 30k from intel that would be fine except that AMD's CPU is only 4k while performing better and using less power and space.
opendebate
opendebate 4 aylar önce
Intel top of the line is 56 core, dumb ass!
DiZ♤
DiZ♤ 4 aylar önce
Would they have to give up Thunderbolt 3?
DiZ♤
DiZ♤ 4 aylar önce
@cool dude *smart thinking gif*
Julian Alexander
Julian Alexander 4 aylar önce
Transitioning to AMD is seamless. Both Intel and AMD are running x86 instructions set. So, not sure what transitioning plan mean in this context.
Nuhash Hossain
Nuhash Hossain 4 aylar önce
*Lisa Su has entered the chat*
Andy Wen
Andy Wen 4 aylar önce
Not surprised, Apple in the past used AMD for their Chips. Doing it again, is really normal.
Alvin Nukman
Alvin Nukman 4 aylar önce
And then the price of the mac should drop!
Christopher Bathgate
Christopher Bathgate 4 aylar önce
Why make a jump to AMD when they could take the plunge and move to ARM
nunchucker
nunchucker 4 aylar önce
Nearly all professional applications are still written for x86. To get them to work on ARM requires emulation, so they run terribly.
Kosiek
Kosiek 4 aylar önce
Because of their Pro customers, who need performance. Server-ARM CPUs are nowhere (near) and probably never will. Different business, different target, different workloads.
jnice v
jnice v 4 aylar önce
At this point I just want a new refreshed iMac!
Tamas Terjek
Tamas Terjek 4 aylar önce
same here... waiting for it for 2 years...
jnice v
jnice v 4 aylar önce
Miguel Mora yea at least just refresh the screen
Miguel Mora
Miguel Mora 4 aylar önce
They need to get rid of those big ass bezel and make it more stream line!!!
Kevin Dagostino
Kevin Dagostino 4 aylar önce
Yea like a normal person can pay 5000 for pc rather then gaming pc.
Rod Fer
Rod Fer 4 aylar önce
Good scoop !!!!
Kristoffer Johnsen
Kristoffer Johnsen 4 aylar önce
RIP Intel: Part 37
GamerDude GamerDude
GamerDude GamerDude 4 aylar önce
Not suprised considering how much insecure intel chips are, like every couple of months new hardware exploits gets revealed and many more to come.
Minh Van
Minh Van 4 aylar önce
youre still nowhere as cool as MKBHD. Hes effortless whereas youre desperate for likes. Hes real while youre fake like a LV purse in Chinatown.
Brian Tong
Brian Tong 4 aylar önce
Asian haters. The fact you said this shows you clearly have no idea who I am. I guess you gotta do something to make you feel good about yourself. Must be a real tough day for you.
MrArgonlegends
MrArgonlegends 4 aylar önce
I think they will create amd Apu custom chips like Microsoft with its Xbox or Sony with its PlayStation
NovaDoll
NovaDoll 4 aylar önce
That's old news. You need to look into this stuff it is nearly official now.
TechGuy
TechGuy 4 aylar önce
$20 says that Apple redesigns the MacPro to use Threadripper. They have to.
Wing N
Wing N 4 aylar önce
I’m an AMD shareholder and I fully approve of AMD Macs.
Aaaaea
Aaaaea 3 aylar önce
C.C. ORR because I prefer an A series processor that an Intel because of its better thermals and power efficiency
C.C. ORR
C.C. ORR 3 aylar önce
Aaaaea lol why on earth would you care wether a certain chip manufacture was a more viable choice for Apple
Aaaaea
Aaaaea 4 aylar önce
Wing N ARM is a cpu architecture, I don’t own x86 either
All The Wrong Reasons
All The Wrong Reasons 4 aylar önce
Stock Brazen it’s a company. They work on Intellectual properties actually. They have offices all over the world and it’s UKs biggest tech company. But you can’t buy shares. They are owned by SoftBank. SoftBank is thinking of putting it back on the stock market with a 3 to 5 years
Stock Brazen
Stock Brazen 4 aylar önce
Wing N ARM isn’t a company its a cpu architecture
Joshua rose
Joshua rose 4 aylar önce
Apple is going to put their own processors in the Mac lineup before they go to AMD
NovaDoll
NovaDoll 4 aylar önce
There are something like 1500 new ryzen 4000 notebooks coming out soon. OEMs are switching fast. WHY? Ryzen is cooler and as fast as intel in gaming and beat them in multicore processes. ON the Build Your own PC market Ryzen is out selling intel with the mainstream market still thinking intel is the best. It will be a while before most "normal" people catch up.
Tommy Scott
Tommy Scott 4 aylar önce
I just bought the 16” MacBook Pro and I just knew that it’s juts a little bit faster than my iPad Pro wtf 😩😩😩 my iPad Pro is $900 but my MacBook is $3600
Judie
Judie 2 aylar önce
Just sell it, while still got resale value. When Apple switching to ARM there will be no more support for intel based macs, just like old G4.
Tommy Scott
Tommy Scott 4 aylar önce
Le Chat Botté duh you don’t say. I don’t care about the architecture I only care about the performance
Le Chat Botté
Le Chat Botté 4 aylar önce
its ARM vs X86
Florian D.
Florian D. 4 aylar önce
A 14“ MacBook Pro with AMDs APUs and 256GB for the base 😍 Instant buy
Daniel Springer
Daniel Springer 4 aylar önce
Please don’t have BOTH TRwomen ads AND sponsors
Business Momo
Business Momo 4 aylar önce
I'm not buying a Mac again unless Apple switches to AMD.
Josh Acosta
Josh Acosta 4 aylar önce
Next special guest in Keynote: Lisa Su
Wing N
Wing N 4 aylar önce
Josh Acosta I’d literally jump from that 😅
Ulum Özergen
Ulum Özergen 4 aylar önce
I want this to happen so bad 😂😂
Robert Hardy
Robert Hardy 4 aylar önce
AMD chips Made in Taiwan. I'm on board!
Robert Hardy
Robert Hardy 4 aylar önce
Le Chat Botté yeah US made us good too. But Taiwan made is also excellent. at least better than China. US and Taiwan are great friends.
Le Chat Botté
Le Chat Botté 4 aylar önce
Intel chips arre made in the US and i actually like that, unlike AMD,Nvidia, Apple, Qualcomm that all rely on TSMC technology in Taiwan for manufacturing
John Merritt
John Merritt 4 aylar önce
I’d rather Apple go straight to using their own A series chips, better power management and great performance also we can get more battery 👌
Aaaaea
Aaaaea 4 aylar önce
Yeah, screw amd
Kristoffer Johnsen
Kristoffer Johnsen 4 aylar önce
@Robert Hardy Well the ARM instruction set is indeed more power efficient than x86. It's just not as full featured.
Kristoffer Johnsen
Kristoffer Johnsen 4 aylar önce
Not gonna happen with their MacBook Pro, iMac and Mac Pro. They need more power than the A series chips can deliver for those devices. AMD's Zen 2 CPUs are more powerful and power efficient than Intel's. Apple might go ARM for the regular MacBooks and MacBook Air, but the A series chips just aren't NEARLY powerful enough to compare with Zen 2 for productivity.
Robert Hardy
Robert Hardy 4 aylar önce
Why do you assume Apple could make chips with better power management?
Le Chat Botté
Le Chat Botté 4 aylar önce
or Apple could use the iphone A14 chip and the Intel chip in the mac and use them for many tasks just like the T2 chip already is ARM and acts like a second CPU
James Mutombo
James Mutombo 4 aylar önce
Apple aren't gonna completely move to AMD. Why? Because of Thunderbolt.
Businessnextgen
Businessnextgen 4 aylar önce
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Mr. Dividend Investor
Mr. Dividend Investor 4 aylar önce
Awesome!
ViciousDave4Life
ViciousDave4Life 4 aylar önce
Yeah who knows if the big switch is gonna be this year or next year or a long time still. AMD or ARM or AMD and than to ARM? We still have no idea but having the same words in the beta as AMD cards. But only Apple knows the truth of course.
Legend Escobar
Legend Escobar 4 aylar önce
2:00, Say it, don't spray it lel
Shahaaim
Shahaaim 4 aylar önce
the comment I was looking for 🤣
Cote Azur
Cote Azur 4 aylar önce
Hedge funds going long on AMD now, shorting Intel. What's the stock price at now?
ricky v
ricky v 4 aylar önce
I seriously doubt this will happen soon. When it does though I will be a happy camper as I am an old school AMD fan. Wait a new school AMD fan as their recent chips before Ryzen were G@rb@&3! Let's see if Intel can find a way to keep Apple on for some platforms.
C O
C O 4 aylar önce
And they should switch GPU to NVIDIA. Then they can deserve the “pro” title.
C O
C O 4 aylar önce
miyagi ryota not a pro machine
Cyclone Senna GTS
Cyclone Senna GTS 4 aylar önce
C O If they added a GTX or RTX GPU to their MacBooks then they wouldn’t be able to use USB-C to charge..
Cyclone Senna GTS
Cyclone Senna GTS 4 aylar önce
They’re not using Nvidia graphics cards and actually they probably never will.
miyagi ryota
miyagi ryota 4 aylar önce
C O not needed
Carson W
Carson W 4 aylar önce
C O nah
Sum FatGï
Sum FatGï 4 aylar önce
Not liking the idea of my 2019 MBP reviving no updates when intel is discontinued.
R Snr
R Snr 4 aylar önce
Idgaf what chips they use. Intel. Amd Doritos. It’s all the same thing.
Oleg Roitburd
Oleg Roitburd 4 aylar önce
but what are the big advantages of switching to AMD that will justify such a costly and complicated move?
Oleg Roitburd
Oleg Roitburd 4 aylar önce
Yeah, but is it that better than styang with whatever Intel gonna put out?
Craig Hutchinson
Craig Hutchinson 4 aylar önce
Zen 3 7nm+ Ryzen 5000 apus will be mostlikely as fast or faster than rysen 3800x desktop cpu with an 5000 apu using graphics faster than Radeon xt560 (maybe even beat the radeon xt 570 desktop model) all at 10 to 25 watt. I suspect this will launch in fall 2020.as the pro amd apu (apu=cpu with intigrated gpu) There are rumors this apu might support ray tracing Apu breakk down. 7nm+ cpu with 8 core 16 thread with intigated navi 2.0 7nm+ gpu with 26 cuda cores in a tdp package of 25 watts. Rysen 4800h 8core 16 thread 7nm is equiled with vega intigrated graphics is beating intel desktop chips with 8 core 8 threads by 5 to 10 percent in cpu benchs. And that 4800h's intigrated graphics is significately faster than intels 10 gen intigrated graphics. Back to rysen 5000 it is rumored to be 15 to 25 faster than the 4800h while its graphics will be 50 to 75 percent faster than that 4800h. Intel isnt competing well in the laptop market in 2020 and may not have an answer to zen 3 apus tell 2quarter 2021.
ugm ugm
ugm ugm 4 aylar önce
Now only if they can get along with nvidia...... had to buy a pc just to do some tensorflow shit
Peter Park
Peter Park 4 aylar önce
I am buying macbook pro if they switch to amd
Dark Knight
Dark Knight 4 aylar önce
Nice. Get away from Intel crap
Headcartoon
Headcartoon 4 aylar önce
YES NO MORE SHIT INTEL
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