The Sneaky Plan to Subvert the Electoral College for the Next Election

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CGP Grey

CGP Grey

21 gün önce

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UrStax Fetish
UrStax Fetish 3 saatler önce
Do you even own land?? I died laughing cuz it true xD
Shyhalu
Shyhalu 5 saatler önce
LOL....this video is why your account was attacked by the idiots running youtube. The "false flag" was just a warning. Literally described what the DNC is trying to do by getting rid of the EC.
Shyhalu
Shyhalu 5 saatler önce
The electoral college was made to stop precisely what the open border lunatics are trying to do with illegals. The Democrats of today are attempting to and would happily continue to flood the country with immigrants in exchange for votes - easily overturning any election made by citizens. This is why some of the candidates want to get rid of it, its stopped the idiots running states like California (Which has dozens of cities worse than a third world country) into the ground from doing the same with America. I say this as a former Democrat, not a republican or conservative - #WalkAway
FortuneZero
FortuneZero 6 saatler önce
I see. Its treason then.
Belliger1991
Belliger1991 6 saatler önce
Wow now the media campagning and impeachment hurry to get it all done before the next election makes a lot more sense
Para0234
Para0234 10 saatler önce
A politician once said : "I do not fear dirrect democracy. People will vote as we tell them to." So be careful of what you wish, because it might happen to you...
SUPERBAD
SUPERBAD 12 saatler önce
because we, the common people, are smart enough and have all the facts we need to make an informed decision on who should run a country. right? we're smarter than the people who have years upon years of experience in politics right guys?
Dom G
Dom G 12 saatler önce
I think where people get most confused is that they think we are a democracy and it’s kinda brainwashed into us that we are, even politicians say we are and for presidents. But we are not a democracy we are a republic. The root of evil is mob rule, that’s why they set it up this way. To protect minorities and have the system freely flow between one party and another when we get tired of certain policy’s.
andybaldman
andybaldman 14 saatler önce
Why would anyone running this system do something that was fair (like this?)
Alexander Chippel
Alexander Chippel 15 saatler önce
Man I can't wait for the elections to become so streamlined we elect people randomly and just kill them when they do things we don't like.
Calcifur Gaming
Calcifur Gaming 17 saatler önce
One key problem, You said voting against the populus in your state would be political suicide, but the problem is that the electoral college are not elected officials and can not be held accountable for how they vote.
Joshua Boylan
Joshua Boylan 18 saatler önce
Do you even own land?
THE ANGRY MARINE
THE ANGRY MARINE 19 saatler önce
Okay so you're telling me that the sneaky backdoor puts the popular vote as the deciding vote? Considering what the Dems did in the last election and how they want to bring others in to vote for their candidate this is a bad, bad thing to have.
SobeCrunkMonster
SobeCrunkMonster 21 saatler önce
im just gonna laugh so hard when we are all dead and doomed
Burris Streaming
Burris Streaming 21 saatler önce
another communist plan to do away with the constitution just like repealing the 2nd and 1st amendments.
Jimnez. 84
Jimnez. 84 Gün önce
Representation only if you are a land owner? I'm starting to really like the original ideals of the founding fathers. Englishman out.
Scott Lasky
Scott Lasky Gün önce
Best video you've put out in a long time, man - loved it!
Jack Herbic
Jack Herbic Gün önce
The electoral college was the best idea the founders had
MattDTB1
MattDTB1 Gün önce
Half way through, but am I the only person that thought, 'why not call it NaPoVIC, rather than NoPoVoInterCo?'
valcarni1
valcarni1 Gün önce
This is quite silly and undemocratic to the states and gives the federal a lot more power. Just do an amendment to make it popular vote if anything.
The Bird of Hermes
The Bird of Hermes Gün önce
It's outdated and needs to be removed. Period.
Clar Wikk
Clar Wikk Gün önce
The EC is a leftover from the Holy Roman Empire. Let it die.
Cinni Minni
Cinni Minni Gün önce
The electorial college is so every STATE has a say in the elections vs just the leftest blue cities riddled with election fraud!
Ian Stradian
Ian Stradian 2 gün önce
The vast number of veterans who would stand up and oppose this subversion of the constitution might make the political figures who might try this, stop and rethink their political future, and the future of their children.
Sam King
Sam King 2 gün önce
I would be hilarious to see this plan backfire on the Democrats, spectacularly, in the coming decades, especially with declining liberal populations, as lefties are producing less and less children. Hope I live to see the day when this happens.
Yaboi inLouisiana
Yaboi inLouisiana 12 saatler önce
Generation Y and Z are majority dem. Hispanics, African Americans, and Asians are majority dem. These three populations are growing in the US, whereas Caucasian populations are shrinking. There is a growing educational divide as well. The majority of college grads and those who have postgraduate education are democratic. The number of people in this group is also growing proportionally. The number of unreligious and nonreligious people in the U.S. is also growing. These people mostly identify as dem as well. The Christian, Caucasian, Silent and Boomer generations are shrinking proportionately to death, irreligious trends, and immigration. The rural part of the country is also shrinking proportionally as kids move to the city. These are the majority Republican sections of the population. I'm sorry to tell you that your dream will not come to pass.
Yaboi inLouisiana
Yaboi inLouisiana 12 saatler önce
Uhh
Pasan Manawadu
Pasan Manawadu 2 gün önce
Very sneaky indeed
TheHumanFlag
TheHumanFlag 2 gün önce
Colorado debating on signing the petition is a good example of how we have changed from red state to battleground and now that we’ve moved over to blue we want to join the popular vote. Idk what this means or how this answers any questions but it’s interesting.
ColtonSuper Game
ColtonSuper Game 2 gün önce
This sounds like a great way to start a civil war. If history has taught us anything, people don't like change, so this is a terrible idea. Plus direct democracy is bad, it's how you get socialism to rise up in a country, and we all know what happens to socialist countries.
Austin Felice
Austin Felice 2 gün önce
The Electoral College prevents the uneducated mobs from destroying everything.
Zach D.
Zach D. 2 gün önce
Step 1 to have tyranny of the masses, nearly complete. I wonder what step 2 is
Kinglink Reviews
Kinglink Reviews 2 gün önce
"Sometimes a president will be elected with a minority of the popular vote!" "Well obviously because we'll have multiple candidates running each with solid positions who compete against each other." "Oh..... ummm... about that." That being said I enjoy the fact that you start this by explaining the point of the Electoral College without mindlessly parroting the same BS people use to complain about it. Also lovely to see the exactly the problem with this plan, can't wait til some state betrays this.
Joseph Serra
Joseph Serra 2 gün önce
I love how Rhode Island is peering through a window during the Constitutional Convention.
Jarrod
Jarrod 2 gün önce
What's the point? All you are voting for is social policies. Anything important that the government does happens behind very boring sounding bills that get passed through at midnight by lame ducks. Somebody needs to tell me where they got the right to tell me what to do in the first place...
Jilk
Jilk 2 gün önce
I like how Grey provides both sides of the argument here. You can hypothetically have a President say “Fuck this state in particular and everyone who lives there,” lose in that state in a landslide, win the nationwide popular vote, and have the state be forced into voting for a president that has a grudge against it.
Quintinohthree
Quintinohthree 2 gün önce
Of course with the popular vote being the deciding factor it's much less likely that such a thing would happen because losing a state by a landslide over a minor loss hurts your chances substantially, whereas it makes no difference in the winner-takes-all system. Yes, your state's electors may sometimes have to vote for a candidate your state doesn't particularly like, but at least each candidate will want to make your state like them as much as possible even in those cases.
Mechazoid5116
Mechazoid5116 3 gün önce
Hm maybe lets not remove the one thing making it so only 3 states control everything? Instead make every state worth 1 point in the EC. Popular vote doesnt matter when its only a tiny bit of the actual nation in terms of culture and life style.
Jimmy Day
Jimmy Day 3 gün önce
Easier to just cheat a win in slim margin swing states, that's the plan for 2020
Jsmes Wagner
Jsmes Wagner 6 saatler önce
Or send the homeless to the swing states and take the state over.
Inebriatd
Inebriatd 3 gün önce
The sad part about this is that you can give Democrats the cheats to win yet they'll still trip over themselves & fail miserably. EVERY chance they had to overturn things in their favor resulted in exposing themselves or eating each other. Democrats are the Team Rocket Jesse & James of politics.
Robofool Studios
Robofool Studios 3 gün önce
Civil Fuvking War, you absolute asshilic nimrods !
Timothy White
Timothy White 3 gün önce
The electoral college is actually keeping Russia and China from directly hijacking the votes
John Smith
John Smith Gün önce
@Timothy White Dems want to demolish it. What shit point are you trying to make.
Timothy White
Timothy White 3 gün önce
They can still interfere with our elections, with 2016 as a golden example
Timothy White
Timothy White 3 gün önce
I feel that there needs to be just a little bit less of a middleman so that the votes are better represented
John Smith
John Smith Gün önce
@Timothy White tyranny of the masses it is douche knob.
Weekend Jail
Weekend Jail 3 gün önce
Bad idea.
Killin With Ki11Roy
Killin With Ki11Roy 3 gün önce
Wow I guess that's why the founding fathers weren't women, you know because they could run a country.
John O'Neill
John O'Neill 3 gün önce
There would be an uprising if they tried that. CPGrey doesn't know Americans well. We tend to take up arms when the Constitution is violated.
jim
jim 3 gün önce
Yeah, right...
Christopher Briney
Christopher Briney 3 gün önce
One thing else to consider...the people most agitating for this are Democrats in reliably blue states. There is the possibility that the compact would backfire. Take CA (please), for instance. There's probably no question that, no matter who the Dem candidate is, CA will vote for that candidate overwhelmingly. 55 electoral votes, under the system as is, would go to the Dem candidate. But what if the election was won by a Republican on the popular vote, as was the case in 2004? Do you REALLY THINK that the residents of CA learned that their 55 electoral votes would go to a candidate that the majority of people in that state did not vote for would fly? You think they would shrug their shoulders and say, "Oh well, we'll get 'em next time." If the unrest in CA over Trump's election is anything to go by, I GUARANTEE that the compact would dissolve before that presidential candidate took office, or the very next CA election would be a blood bath in removing state congresspersons who refused to take up abolishing the compact. This system can only backfire on its advocates. I do agree, however, that should they succeed, it will be entertaining to watch the aftermath.
Quintinohthree
Quintinohthree 2 gün önce
Considering about 40% of Californians vote Republican.
Nouche
Nouche 4 gün önce
Please someone tell me quickly… could this be argued as “news”?
D Smith
D Smith 19 saatler önce
@Nouche Good luck with your presentation. Dont worry though. NatPopVoInterCo is unlikely to happen and if in the unlike event that I does, the courts will shoot it down almost immediately.
Nouche
Nouche 2 gün önce
@D Smith : Well, since I’m gonna have to do some useless English presentation about it in class (too late for me to prepare a different topic, it’s in a few hours), I’ll have to make it look like news. I’ll probably say the next elections are in less than a year and that those pending states are making people talk about NaPoVoInterCo, considering how they might just radically change the next elections.
D Smith
D Smith 2 gün önce
It's not news. I've known about this shady plot for at least 8 years.
BLOCK47
BLOCK47 4 gün önce
This video should be called “How to start a civil war.”
Andagger Herc
Andagger Herc Gün önce
@Pendlera excellent brevity, total failure to understand politics .
Pendlera
Pendlera Gün önce
@Andagger Herc Politics is the extremely complex art of trying to manage an infinite number of competing needs, desires, ideologies, and facts. If you can't handle reading a very short youtube comment, you shouldn't be discussing politics. How's that for brevity?
Andagger Herc
Andagger Herc Gün önce
@valcarni1 sorry my dude , too much text and I dont read gamma . Try brevity if you want engagement.
valcarni1
valcarni1 Gün önce
Andagger Herc: So I guess you are scared of losing your nobility status? The right wing only care about the globalist millionaires where hate and fear are the main priorities. The right wing are normally the ones who dropped out at school at an early age because the bible obviously has all the answers they need lol. To me I feel everyone should be given a chance, not just the drop outs who were born wealthy. That way you have a much better economy overall as you have more participants. People who were born poor shouldn't have to be restricted to minimum wage their entire lives while the nobility put in laws to make it hard for anyone who wasn't born with a golden spoon to succeed. I know the right pretend to hate the globalists. But if it came down to a globalist multi-billionaire corporation vs a poor community, the right wing would always side with the globalist multi-billionaire corporation because there is a good chance they'll pollute the place.
Andagger Herc
Andagger Herc Gün önce
@valcarni1 haha proper democracy ,, so a simpler system to live under mob rule . No thanks . I'm happier knowing the right as bad as they are , are nowhere close to the evil leftism creates at its worst .
Z Tuber
Z Tuber 4 gün önce
In other words : if a republican wins the state, a leftist in the electoral college can pick the democrat instead.
D Smith
D Smith 2 gün önce
Generally, the electors are dedicated party lackeys that have little incentive to cross party lines and vote for a candidate of another party.
l l
l l 4 gün önce
What a horrifying idea
Yoga tonga
Yoga tonga 4 gün önce
The EC is so dumb.
Joseph Rosario
Joseph Rosario 2 gün önce
@Yoga tonga Yes it's why we have the collage. Small pop states can have a equal chance against larger states.
Yoga tonga
Yoga tonga 2 gün önce
@Joseph Rosario Yeah, they have a low population. This is the problem of democracy.
Joseph Rosario
Joseph Rosario 2 gün önce
@Yoga tonga That is send it those seats can change a lot and very fast and very short amount of time especially if your primaryed in. But in a popular vote the smaller States would be passed over and ignored due to their low population
Yoga tonga
Yoga tonga 2 gün önce
@Joseph Rosario Smaller states are already overrepresentated in the Senats.
Joseph Rosario
Joseph Rosario 2 gün önce
@Yoga tonga How is giving smaller states a chance to affect a election?
maa-iin-gun B
maa-iin-gun B 4 gün önce
Where do I sign?
DaveyTheDJ
DaveyTheDJ 4 gün önce
I say get rid of the Electoral College and go based upon the popular vote by passing the states! However if you want to keep the Electoral College the Electoral College must match the popular vote if not we go back and vote again until it does keep doing it until it does then the government might decide to get rid of the Electoral College!!!
Lorgar64
Lorgar64 4 gün önce
If you're wondering why the U.S. desperately needs an electoral college, look at California. Debt, poverty, crap in the streets, the state is a master at what not to do. The electoral college means their voting power is limited. Just because your state is large doesn't mean it gets to dictate what others do.
Quintinohthree
Quintinohthree 4 gün önce
@Lorgar64 No, it's perfectly coherent. "California" is distinct from California herein, being the portion of California that gets represented in the Electoral College, whereas California is what is represented in the popular vote. The portion of California represented by the Electoral College has a greater representation in the Electoral College than in the popular vote, even if all of California has more representation in the popular vote than in the Electoral College. The California represented in the Electoral College is a different one than that represented in the popular vote, and the one represented in the popular vote seems to be the one you like more.
Lorgar64
Lorgar64 4 gün önce
@Quintinohthree "Yes, a popular vote gives California more power than the Electoral College gives "California", but it gives "California" a whole lot less power". This might just be the cold I'm shaking off, but I'm not sure that sentence is entirely coherent...
Quintinohthree
Quintinohthree 4 gün önce
The Electoral College gives "California" quite a bit more power than it gets in a popular vote. Of course, that's because "California" represents only the plurality of Californians, while all the other Californians are entirely powerless in the Electoral college. Yes, a popular vote gives California more power than the Electoral College gives "California", but it gives "California" a whole lot less power and it seems you're arguing that would be a good thing.
ZakAshChan
ZakAshChan 4 gün önce
1,000 generations? Your mathematics is off.
cypherpunk
cypherpunk 4 gün önce
This plan is entirely predicated on small states being willing to give up their own representative power - why would they ever want to surrender their own disproportionate representation?
Quintinohthree
Quintinohthree 4 gün önce
@cypherpunkI know how electors are apportioned. A majority of states are not in the compact, so I don't see why a majority of states with 3 or 4 electors being outside the compact is an argument that those states are more against the conpact when compared to bigger states. As far as the numbers go, states with 3 or 4 electors are more in favor of the compact than states in general. 5 out of 13 states with 3 or 4 electors are in the compact, which is 38.5%, while 16 out of 51 states in general (I'm counting D.C. as a state in both) are in the compact, which is only 31.4%. Yes, you can certainly explain why it's these states more than other similar states, but this doesn't change the fact that such states are not on principle unreceptive.
cypherpunk
cypherpunk 4 gün önce
@Quintinohthree Every state has electors equal to the number of senators it has plus the number of representatives. Each state has 2 senators and a number of representatives proportional to its population. Those states you mentioned are generally democratic states so they inherently believe that more strongly in America as a democracy rather than a republic. 5/16 is not also majority of states with 3 or 4 electors. That's 11/16 against so the smaller states are more against it than in favour.
Quintinohthree
Quintinohthree 4 gün önce
Vermont, DC, Delaware, Rhode Island and Hawaii already have, all states with only 3 or 4 electors. That's 5 out of the 16 so far, that's a greater proportion than similarly small states within the US. It's not a question of why, it's a question of why not more.
Dog Speak
Dog Speak 4 gün önce
Special guest appearances by Mr. Garrison.
D Smith
D Smith 2 gün önce
"You're not a bad looking man Mr. Garrison. I'm gonna look you up when I get outta here!"
judah macneely
judah macneely 4 gün önce
I think it’s important to realize that the idea of the electoral college was to provide support for smaller rural states who contributed largely to the economy and had to compete with the far more densely popular urban states. However, now farming and agricultural jobs only make up around 2% of jobs as opposed to the original 50%, and most of these states have urbanized as well. If we want a legitimate democracy we need votes by the people to matter. Every vote counts
J Kyle
J Kyle 5 gün önce
Step your land game up, bro.
Taruden Taruhito
Taruden Taruhito 5 gün önce
Need to spread the word that we live in a REPUBLIC so less people are willfully ignorant of this fact
Eli Egbert
Eli Egbert 5 gün önce
If something attempts to subvert the constitution, isn't it, by definition, unconstitutional?!
Joseph Rosario
Joseph Rosario 17 saatler önce
@Matt Yes it's unconstitutional we are constitutional republic, and every single presidents since George Washington has been brought in through the Electoral College it's unconstitutional
Matt
Matt 17 saatler önce
@Joseph Rosario such arguments, much logic, wow
Joseph Rosario
Joseph Rosario 18 saatler önce
@Matt Its unconstitutional
Matt
Matt 19 saatler önce
@Joseph Rosario No, it isn't. The Constitution created the College and Electors, but laid out no criteria beyond Electors having to be eligible to vote in the state they represent. Until the timeframe of the Civil War, there remained states that selected Electors through the state legislature, without a state popular vote at all. If the transition to state popular votes wasn't unconstitutional, then the transition to a national popular vote isn't unconstitutional.
Joseph Rosario
Joseph Rosario 2 gün önce
Yes it's unconstitutional
bsnxenogear
bsnxenogear 5 gün önce
The initiative is very much democratic which raises some problems since its their decision on when to trigger this thing. It's a sort of 'I win button' in case the horse you bet on suddenly loses via electoral college. No sane democrat is going to trigger this thing if a person sitting on the top is also a democrat. That's what didn't get put across. That this benefits one side more than the other.
Manek Iridius
Manek Iridius 5 gün önce
Sounds like a timer on a civil war to me.
JustusGregorius
JustusGregorius 5 gün önce
"A 1000 generations" lol. What a tool.
D Smith
D Smith 3 gün önce
It is a Star Wars reference.
phennec
phennec 5 gün önce
Electoral College - an antiquated system that needs to go. Let the people's vote count, not the corrupt politicians.
Joseph Rosario
Joseph Rosario 2 gün önce
Then get rid of the Electoral College and you'll have minority number of states with the largest population telling the rest of the country what to do that is the perfect mix for a civil war
Al Quinn
Al Quinn 4 gün önce
but voters are stupid and irrational
fisharmor
fisharmor 5 gün önce
The entire states rights argument has been meaningless since the passage of the Seventeenth Amendment anyway.
Wtwarrior
Wtwarrior 6 gün önce
Democracia doesnt work
buddy lee
buddy lee 6 gün önce
statistically insignificant act becomes more insignificant
D3RP K1NG
D3RP K1NG 6 gün önce
@CGP Grey you sound like you want another civial war for my country at 5:30
David Vargas
David Vargas 6 gün önce
I love how at 5:27 New York is the only one holding a bat!
Honey Badger
Honey Badger 6 gün önce
With the electoral college if a state joins the union they can continue to run their own election.
Jorge Castillo
Jorge Castillo 6 gün önce
Rbg is almost out for the count. Meaning the Supreme Court, if trump wins re-election, will have another conservative supreme justice and the Backdoor will get swatted down so fast it’ll just be a footnote.
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